Comments on Profile Post by 4xdblack

  1. Enies
    Enies
    as in like western animation?
    Oct 10, 2017
  2. Oh Snape
    Oh Snape
    About time more people starting escaping from the weebtrix.
    Oct 10, 2017
  3. Novaire
    Novaire
    The majority of both mediums are pretty useless these days. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Oct 10, 2017
  4. Enies
    Enies
    if they both suck there is no alternative. If you're talking about western animation then the west is still light years behind japan. If you're talking about regular television the west has always been ahead.

    So depends.
    Oct 10, 2017
  5. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Not really imo. Western television generally has better execution but anime is more diverse and imaginative in the kind of shows it provides.
    Oct 11, 2017
  6. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Western television at some point found its golden formula and perfected that. But this did result in basically all shows folllowing the same formula with only few exceptions. Western television is also very safe. It's always drama wiith adult protagonists in a realistic setting. Be it historical or present day.
    Oct 11, 2017
  7. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    There is some influx of quality genre television but that too, by and large follows the same formula I mentioned earlier.
    Oct 11, 2017
  8. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Lastly western tv shows are generally made to run for multiple seasons and that very much hinders the amount of stories they can tell.
    Oct 11, 2017
  9. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Anime on the other hand doesn't have that issue and as such can create a much more diverse landscape of shows.
    Oct 11, 2017
  10. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Just this season I'm watching a show about super powered individuals in an alternate universe New York, a show about a badass motorcyclist fighting demons in a cyberpunk city, a show about another badass motorcyclist traveling through a fantasy land and contemplating the human condition,
    Oct 11, 2017
  11. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    a show about two girls traversing a post apocalyptic wasteland, a show about a young orphan discovering a world of magic and slowly dealing with past trauma, a show about a floating island where people with special abilites do not live past the age of 30, a show about a 30 something MMO addict and a show about fox spirits working at a traditional Japanese inn. And that's just one season.
    Oct 11, 2017
  12. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    So yeah if you're looking for shows that are confidently executed than Western television is obviosuly superior. But if you're looking for more variety and imagination in the entertainment you consume anime is still ligthyears ahead.
    Oct 11, 2017
  13. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Oct 11, 2017
  14. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Personally I enjoy both western tv-shows and anime. For me western tv-shows are comfort food. Being western myself there method of storytellign is recognisable and pleasant for me and I can always rely on the execution being at least somewaht decent. However there's usually only one or two shows each season that I'm really interested in.
    Oct 11, 2017
  15. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    By comparison anime is not something I'd watch as comfort food but there are way more shows I'm interested in each season due to the large variety of shows.
    Oct 11, 2017
  16. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    So it's all really a matter of what you're looking for in your entertainment as far as I'm concerned.
    Oct 11, 2017
  17. Novaire
    Novaire
    Good god man. That's the first time I've ever had 12 notifications at once on here. :b
    Oct 11, 2017
  18. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Well it's an interesting question and not one that can be answered within the space of a single post.
    Oct 11, 2017
  19. Novaire
    Novaire
    Or eleven apparently. :b
    Oct 11, 2017
  20. Oh Snape
    Oh Snape
    Kerb ur enthuasiasm brah.
    Oct 11, 2017
  21. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    What can I say? I find it an interesting topic being both a fan of live action tv-shows and anime.
    Oct 11, 2017
  22. Enies
    Enies
    for regular TV western is better for obvious reasons ie budget, talent execution. If you're talking about animated medium then yes they are way ahead of western animation. Other than that though i'd say western is better at everything else apart from animation.
    Oct 11, 2017
  23. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    I'd have to politely disagree. Budget: probably. Execution: definitely. As I said at some point western tv discovered its golden formula and it certainly does work for creating highly compelling drama. Talent though...I feel that in terms of sheer imagination and creative freedom Japan is still way ahead of the west. Anime just has such a more vast and diverse landscape of stories being told.
    Oct 11, 2017
  24. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    If you want to simplify things you could say that anime is better at creating stories whereas western tv is better at telling them.
    Oct 11, 2017
  25. 4xdblack
    4xdblack
    That variety you speak of is part of the problem though. While everyone in Japan is trying to be original, they forget that the story is absolute garbage. At least with WTV, the episodic nature of the series and lack of diversity requires the creators to create a story that stands out. IMO there hasn't been a good anime season since Fall of 2015.
    Oct 11, 2017
  26. Harlequinn
    Harlequinn
    Holy guacamole
    Oct 11, 2017
  27. Scruffie
    Scruffie
    Oct 11, 2017
  28. Novaire
    Novaire
    That's kind of cherry picking though. Anime is judged by the strength of a season's offerings, where television is judged solely on the best things going.

    If you look at western TV as a whole, as we do with anime, you'll find its got just as many terrible shows.

    Really, the ratio is probably going to be even worse, because there are just so much shit on television.
    Oct 11, 2017
  29. Enies
    Enies
    you guys are comparing two different mediums.
    Oct 11, 2017
  30. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    @Enies Believe it or not but I actually agree with you. I think the appeal of anime and the appeal of western tv shows is vastly different.
    Oct 12, 2017
  31. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    TV-shows tend to run for multiple seasons so getting into a tv-show means comitting to something that you know is going to be very big and sprawling. Whereas with anime it's contained to twelve, maybe twenty-four episodes and that lends itself to a very different kind of storytelling.
    Oct 12, 2017
  32. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    I find that where western tv tries to cram as much into a single show as possible with anime it's more spread out. Want a fun fantay adventure show, usually there's one or two each season. Want a beautiful heartbreaking drama, you'll probably find something to your liking, want a good comedy, take your pick.
    Oct 12, 2017
  33. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Each anime provides something different. This is because due to the short length the amount of stories that can be told are much larger. Yet at the same time because of this there is less time to craft a genuine epic like you see with a lot of western tv shows.
    Oct 12, 2017
  34. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    I think if you must compare anime to something I'd say it's more fair to compare it to movies since a lot of stories told in anime series would not be adapted to tv over here but rather a film.
    Oct 12, 2017
  35. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    And this is where the 12 episode format is a benefit because even thoug it's far shorter than the average tv series it's longer than the runtime of a movie and allows for the kind of carefully crafted character arc you don't get much in movies.
    Oct 12, 2017
  36. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    So yeah if you go into an anime expecting to get the same kind of experience you get from a TV show you'll be sorely dissapointed. But then if you look at western tv series expecting the same kind of variety in storytelling you get from anime you'll be pretty dissapointed to.
    Oct 12, 2017
  37. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Like @Enies said, they're two vbery different mediums with a very different appeal. It's not that one is better than the other. It's just that they offer very different experiences.
    Oct 12, 2017
  38. 4xdblack
    4xdblack
    So what you're saying is... Because they're two very different formats, I can't judge them by the same standard of whether they're garbage or not? Sorry, but differences aside..I only care about whether I can enjoy it or not. And frankly, WTV has been far superior to Anime here recently in that regard.
    Oct 12, 2017
  39. Kerberos
    Kerberos
    Well enjoyment is subjective and if you enjoy western tv more than anime right now than good for you. Tastes change. Personally though I wouldnt assign any kind of objective value to one medium or another because of that.
    Oct 12, 2017
  40. Harlequinn
    Harlequinn
    Anime is objectively terrible
    Oct 12, 2017
  41. 4xdblack
    4xdblack
    Leave the objectivity to the critics. In the end, subjective opinions are what buys DvD's, movie tickets, boxsets, and other merch. If you want, you're free to be objective all you want.. However, it's NOT objectivity, but subjectivity, that decides the value of an entertainment platform. And my subjective opinion is that WTV has been far superior overall than Japanese Anime here recently.
    Oct 12, 2017
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